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Here Comes 2012

Hopefully you’ve noticed that we’ve updated our website today with our 2012 bike and frame line information.

Before we dive into that all, we want to thank you for your support during the past year (or years for many of you). I’ll speak for the Salsa Crew when I say that we all feel fortunate to work in the bike industry, and particularly for Salsa. Your support is why we have these jobs.



We are passionate about bikes and bike riding, and we hope it shows in our products. It should because we take this stuff seriously…but hopefully not so seriously that the fun disappears.

Your support is also helping Salsa grow. We owe you for that too and will continue to work hard to pay you back with great products.

This update puts the vast bulk of information onto our site, but I’ll be upfront and say there are certainly missing details and probably missing items.

We’ll be filling in missing bits of info as fast as we can so please be patient.

Perhaps the biggest thing you’ll notice, beside our new Horsethief model, is that there are more bikes than ever. Yes, we are growing up and are offering multiple levels of bikes on many of our models.

Starting tomorrow, and all next week, we will be putting up blog posts that speak to updates on specific 2012 models.

Tomorrow morning you can read product development engineer Sean Mailen’s take on the 2012 Mamasita.

Thanks again for your support. We wouldn’t get to do this without you.

-Kid on behalf of the Salsa Crew

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Mike Riemer

I love being outside. I prefer to ride on dirt. Or snow. If I was born a hundred years earlier I might have been a polar explorer. There's a great natural world out there to see, smell, taste, listen to, and experience. Life slows down out there and the distractions we've created will disappear if you let them. Give me a backpack and let me go.

COMMENTS (35)

Errin | September 1st, 2011

Stoked to get the Mukluk 2 hubset! Looking forward to ditching that Surly front hub on my Mukluk.

DD | September 1st, 2011

Bummed by the lack of speedy 26ers.  RIP Ala Cart, Moto Rapido, Juan Solo….

benny | September 1st, 2011

Do you have plans to replace the La Cruz and Pistola? ...I know one Salsa fan in Hobart who will be teary when he finds out the Ala Cart is gone..

Don | September 1st, 2011

Why don’t you include prices in the bike descriptions?

Will | September 1st, 2011

Surprised by the 26” abandonment.  I’ve seen a good deal of green Ala Cartes floating around.  Nice bikes.  Handful of nice bikes available for 2012, but very very much MTB 29’er centric.

Tom | September 1st, 2011

I see the Vaya Ti complete picture shows SRAM 2x10 but the build has Shimano 3X9 Dura Ace bar ends. Which is correct?

Kid Riemer | September 2nd, 2011

Benny - We are working on some bikes in that vein. That is all I can say about it right now.

Tom - See the Build Kit tab. That information is correct. We haven’t been able to shoot a Vaya Ti with the proper build kit yet, thus the incorrect photo.

Just Tom | September 2nd, 2011

Salsa Team—Your lineup looks great.  While some may be disappointed by your seeming lack of focus in certain types of bikes, it’s hard to deny the 29er movement.  Advancements in frame design, materials, and weight loss all benefit the 29er more than any type of bike.  Even my wife prefers riding a 29er.

The Horsethief looks awesome (and the large-diameter Fox forks must make the bike ultra stable), and the Spearfish variants are very tempting as well.  In fact, producing different trim levels is a good move all around.  I also think the presentation of the bikes is much better than last year (the extra tabs of info are nice).  Kudos to you all, and I wish you the best in 2012! 

Any chance of showing up at Outerbike this fall?

Andrew | September 2nd, 2011

DId the Horsethief take the place of the Big Mamma?

Kid Riemer | September 2nd, 2011

Just Tom - Thanks. We won’t be at Outerbike this year, though I’m curious to hear how it goes this year. Perhaps we’ll be there in 2013. We will, of course, be at Dirt Demo prior to Interbike. If you know a dealer that is going you could ask them to test ride something you are interested so they can share their opinion with you. Not as good as a test ride, but it would be something at least.

Andrew - Short answer is Yes. Long answer will be on our blog this coming Monday morning.

Luke Schleif | September 2nd, 2011

I’ll take one of each please.

dgaddis | September 2nd, 2011

Bikes look great, and like someone said above, the website layout is nice.  It’s easy to find the info you’re looking for.  One suggestion:  It’d be nice to see the specs for different level bikes at the same time, so you could compare an ElMariatchi 2 and 3 side by side without going back and forth between a few tabs.

Not surprised to see the 26” wheel bikes gone.  Around here, if someone is looking for a mid range to high end hardtail, 99.99999% of the time they’re not even considering 26” bikes.

Iowagriz | September 2nd, 2011

Bring back the jersey design of about 95’ or 96’.  Button-up cowboy shirt look. Sleeveless version was great.  I seem to remember a very young Jeff Hall wearing that version.

jp | September 2nd, 2011

“While it does appear right now that we have abandoned road bikes here at Salsa, in reality we have not. With the Casseroll moving to canti brakes and completely polarizing people, we feel there is room for a beautiful Salsa road bike in our line. Make no mistake, we want a lovely road bike to take out on those perfect sunny days or for days when 35c cross tires just feel slow and fat.”—Jason Boucher, writing on Salsa’s blog, October 8th, 2010.

Well, I see new, nice mountain bikes from Salsa, but no new road bikes for 2012.  Despite the above quote, it would indeed appear Salsa has all but given up on the road bike market.  This is very sad.  I guess those of us who had been hoping a go-fast, steel road bike from QBP will have to look elsewhere.  Us Salsa fans that want a Salsa steel road bike keep getting promises, but see no action. 

I was also suprised, and dismayed to see Ala Carte gone from the lineup.  Both Ala Carte and La Raza were bikes that were part of Salsa since its inception, and they embodied a lot of Salsa is (or was?) about.

Hollis | September 2nd, 2011

Ala Carte is a foundation bike - know you guys want let this Salsa favorite out to pasture. Can’t wait to see what you guys have in store (pun intended)!

jp | September 2nd, 2011

Reposting below due to grammatical mistakes and ommissions on original post above:

?While it does appear right now that we have abandoned road bikes here at Salsa, in reality we have not. With the Casseroll moving to canti brakes and completely polarizing people, we feel there is room for a beautiful Salsa road bike in our line. Make no mistake, we want a lovely road bike to take out on those perfect sunny days or for days when 35c cross tires just feel slow and fat.??Jason Boucher, writing on Salsa?s blog, October 8th, 2010.

Well, I see new, nice mountain bikes from Salsa, but no new road bikes for 2012.  Despite the above quote, it appears Salsa has indeed abandoned the road bike market.  This is very sad.  I guess those of us who had been hoping a go-fast, steel road bike from Salsa will have to look elsewhere at QBP.  Unfortunately, us Salsa fans that want a go-fast, non-touring, non-randonneuring Salsa steel road bike get promises from Salsa, but no follow-through.

I was also suprised, and dismayed, to see Ala Carte gone from the lineup.  Both Ala Carte and La Raza were bikes that were part of Salsa since its inception, and they embodied a lot of what Salsa is (or was) about.  Besides, 29ers may be all the rage right now, but there will always be people who simply prefer 26ers.

I like Salsa’s new direction and identity, but I am also sad to see Salsa jettison some of what made it great to begin with.

Lurpy | September 2nd, 2011

Glad to see the Vaya Ti listing still includes a 60cm frame; maybe this year I’ll actually be able to find one to purchase!

Just Tom | September 2nd, 2011

It seems to me that Salsa is a small group of dedicated bicyclists that have put a lot of passion into their business.  However, it?s still a business.  That means tough decisions have to be made when you?re a low-volume manufacturer competing with enormous bicycles corporations like Trek, Specialized, etc, particularly in a bad economy.  If a particular model isn?t selling well, or dealers aren?t ordering enough, odds are it will be removed from the lineup regardless of how the Salsa Team personally feels about it.  29er MTBs are in vogue, and that?s where limited R&D resources have to be spent. 

I like what I see in the Salsa line of 29ers.  I?ve also been wanting to get a steel road bike like someone else mentioned.  Unfortunately it?s going to take more than a handful of people in a forum to make a change. 

Keep up the good work, Salsa.

pants and jacket | September 2nd, 2011

jp, it has not even been a year since that quote you reference was publised, and it makes no specific reference to a timeframe for a Salsa road bike. I don’t see why you are assuming the worst, when you fail to consider a few things:

-design time
-testing
-new tooling production lead time
-production lead time

For the record I’m bummed too, but remain hopeful. If the imgainary roadie bike is as awesome as the rest of the 2012 line, it’s going to be fantastic. Nice work Salsa!

Kid Riemer | September 2nd, 2011

Thanks for all the comments everyone. To those looking for a road bike I can only say:

Just because you don’t see it in our 2012 line doesn’t mean we aren’t working on it.

To all those that have the long weekend for Labor Day here in the U.S., enjoy it. Perhaps you can take in a bike ride.

jp | September 2nd, 2011

Pants and Jacket,

Yes it’s only nearly a year since the comment I quoted.  However, in that same time frame, Salsa designed and introduced new models.  They just weren’t road bikes.  Also, it’s now TWO Interbikes since Salsa introduced a non-touring, non-rando road bike.

At this point, seeing is believing for me with Salsa.  I’ll pop open the bubbly stuff when the ‘imaginary’ Salsa roadie becomes a real roadie.

jp | September 2nd, 2011

Hi, Kid.  That news sounds exciting.  Hope you’ll offer us some proof, and some teasers soon :)

Brian Blair | September 2nd, 2011

If anyone wants a 56cm Pistola frame/fork…..give The Path Bike Shop a call. We also have a 48cm(I think) complete bike.

B

pants and jacket | September 3rd, 2011

“However, in that same time frame, Salsa designed and introduced new models”

So when did they start working on those do you think? Probably longer ago than you think.

jp | September 3rd, 2011

Amigos, any chance we’ll get recall-resistant CroMoto SUL stems for 2013?  Even if it means they’re made in the U.S., and cost more?  This is another one of those iconic, timeless, beautiful Salsa products that some of us Salsa fans wish would never go away.  They never seemed to fail, except in the past few years (anything change?).  And when you had them painted them to match the frames of some your bikes, that was simply brilliant.  Would love to see some of that spirit at Salsa again someday.

jp | September 5th, 2011

Salsa New Road Bike 1:
*Ti frame
*carbon fork
*SRAM Force groupset
*Salsa carbon components

Salsa New Road Bike 2:
*Columbus Life frame
*crowned cromoly fork
*SRAM Rival WiFLi groupset
*Salsa 7050-T76 alloy components

Salsa New Road Bike 3:
*Quad Butted Kaisei frame
*non-crowned cromoly fork
SRAM Apex WiFLi groupset
*Salsa 6061-T6 alloy components

Common to all three bikes:
*clearance for 28’s
*two bottle mounts
*no rack or fender mounts
*stainless steel drop outs
*curved fork
*traditional granfondo/sportive/club race geometry (no compact geo, no sloping top tube)
*not a race bike.  rather, a go fast, go far, and go comfy bike

Kato | September 5th, 2011

Very sad to see the demise of 26inch wheelers here.  The Ala Carte Ti was the next bike on my list to get.  For us short guys (5’6” and less) 29ers are great for gravel grinders (Fargo)  but for true single-track use and a zippy MTB nothing beats the 26 inch wheeled bike.
I’m 5’6” with a 30 inch inseam and I think I’m likely the shortest size person that could ride the 2011/2012 size small Fargo in an off-road situation and be able to dismount safely in mixed terrain.
Poor, poor 26ers…

Nate | September 7th, 2011

Will I be able to purchase the El Mar frame in any of the model colors?  I would love a green frame or frameset.

Thanks!
Nate

Nate | September 7th, 2011

Nevermind.  I jumped the gun before doing my homework.  From the Frame Only tab: “Slate Blue or Jungle Fever Green.”  Nice!

N

JVA | September 15th, 2011

Looks like a great lineup! Wish I could afford one of each.  What I’d really like to see, though, is something like a Vaya 1, the steel frame with the buildkit of the Vaya Ti (which I’m almost certain is going to be out of my price range).

Chris | September 17th, 2011

WHAT?!?!  Where is the La Cruz Ti???  I was hoping to order one within the next week or two!  FML!!!  Back to researching options…..

Chris | September 17th, 2011

Not all whining though!  That El Mariachi Ti complete is HAWT!  Can’t wait to check one of those out!  Good work!

John | September 23rd, 2011

Put me on the list of people who would LOVE to see a go-fast steel frame Salsa road bike; I loved the look of the Pistola when it was available but wasn’t in the market for a new ride.  I picked up a 2011 Vaya and use it ~90 miles a week for commuting, but would love to extend the stable to include a bike fit for long, faster weekend rides.

Mark | September 25th, 2011

Came across the Vaya’s by accident and now I want one!  I don’t buy bikes that often but this one fills a nice niche.  Any information as to when the 2012 Vaya’s they’ll be available?  The local dealers here were perplexed about availability when I’ve inquired.

cjlivinlife | October 7th, 2011

Picking up my new vaya monday

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