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Introducing Vaya

Introducing Vaya, our new road adventure bike. How do you say Vaya? Say Veye-Ahhh.... What does it mean? Go! What's does road adventure mean? Well, that is where you come in.

The Vaya is go anywhere do anything steel road bike. Go for a long road ride. Go on a asphalt road tour. Ride that limestone rails to trails route you've always wanted to do. Heck, do it all and throw in a gravel road or two in between. The Vaya will get you there. Make your road own adventure.

This bike came about for many reasons. The biggest reason is that we repeatedly saw dealers and consumers taking our disc specific La Cruz cross bike and making it into an all around road warrior. We heard this feedback and improved this function by tweaking the tubing, improving the geometry, and improving the rack & fender mounting. We did a bunch of other stuff too.

One of the other reasons we brought out the Vaya is that Tim, our Product Manager wanted a dedicated tour bike in our line up. Tim's not happy if he can't carry A LOT of stuff on his rides. Some might say what about the Fargo, can't that carry A LOT of stuff. While true, the Fargo is our off road adventure bike capable of single track and off road adventure. Lot's of adventurous souls, Tim included, wanted a more road focused product so we gave it to them. If this fits your persona, the Vaya just may be your perfect bike.

The Vaya will be available as a frameset ($540 MSRP) and as a complete bike ($1550 MSRP). Frameset includes frame, fork and Lip Lock seat clamp. Complete bikes feature a mostly Tiagra 9speed STI group, a wide ratio cassette with a 34-50 crankset. All good stuff.

Sizing - We are introducing a new sizing scheme with this bike. The top tube size is the frame size. We've got 8 sizes ranging from 50 to 60. The two smallest sizes use 26" wheels making fit and stand over even better for folks that sizes. So....If you have a bike that you currently fit and like, simply take the effective TT length and compare to our sizing info. It's a good starting point to discuss with your dealer. Pretty slick and easy.

One might ask why we don't have this info on our website if we are writing about it and showing it here on the blog? Good question. We are building a new website and will be launching it mid February. We'll follow up this post later this week with a bike spec and sizing chart. Look for that in a couple of days.

Now....Here is the other good news. These bikes and frames are completed and in transit. We expect to ship them to our Salsa dealers by the end of February! Initial order is limited. Our Salsa dealers have the info and are already taking orders.

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Jason Boucher

Growing up as a Minnesota farm boy, I developed an appreciation and love for land and open space. This appreciation has fostered two passions, cycling and photography. Both of these passions provide freedom, encourage me to explore and foster creativity. More importantly though, my journey with a bike and a camera reminds me that the world is big and I am small.

COMMENTS (63)

 MG |

What an awesome extension of the innovations you guys started with the Fargo!  Way to not leave the roadies and gravel fanatics out…

Looks like you've knocked another one out of the park!  I can't wait to saddle up on a Vaya for some long miles.

Cheers,
MG

 Puerto Rico |

Salsa makes Roadies rejoice once again.  Color is much nicer than Casseroll Triple's. 

Note: The Spanish imperative 'vaya' is translated as 'go' in English.  E.g. 'Vaya con Dios', ('Godspeed' in English). The English infinitve 'to go' is translated in Spanish as 'ir'.

?Vaya con Salsa!

 Jason |

Very cool. Love the direction that Salsa keeps moving towards… going long, big miles and adventure. Nice work.

 C-Hog |

I think Salsa just came out with the PERFECT Dirty Kanza 200 weapon.  WOW!!!

 Tom |

Wow! Now I have to rethink about buying the Fargo. How wide can you go with tires & fenders?

Tom

 Adrian |

Okay, but does that mean vaya con dios for the la cruz?  Estoy triste.  I'm sad.

 anon |

What a load of crap. Just because you call a bike a "touring bike" does not make it so, and this bike is as far from a touring bike as you can get.

The front cogs are totally the wrong type, and the rear cluster is nothing like a touring cluster.

There are no mounting brackets for panniers and the handlebars are the wrong type.

Please don't try to pass this bike off for something it not.

 Butcher |

Hey folks, good morning.  Hope I can answer the questions you might have. 

Tire clearance.  Up to 43-45 depending on brand.

La Cruz - You'll see the name La Cruz again in the near future.  We love cross bikes. 

Anon - We are sorry it does not fit your definition of a touring bike.  It is capable of dedicated touring and was tested this way.  It is also more than that so that is why we call it a road adventure bike. 

The frame has 3 bottle mounts, front and rear rack and fender mounts.  The fork also has mid blade lo rider mounts. 

We had similar feedback about the Fargo.  Many said it wasn't a proper touring bike.  While that may be true to some, it is not to others.  All we know is that the Fargo has been around the world on some crazy adventures and we suspect the Vaya will be ridden on some crazy long distance adventures too.   

Anon - we do respect your opinion though and do appreciate the comment.  Maybe someday we will make a proper touring bike for you.

 Hollis |

Oh this looks wonderful thank you so much and for representing brown too! I am on the edge of my seat waiting to see what you announce for the Ala Carte and El Mariachi (both bedrocks of the Salsa stable)!

 Steve |

Uf you make this bike available with S&S Couplers it would be PERFECT!!!! and I bet they'd sell out!  Pivoting rear dropouts for Rohloff and or SS would be nice as well…

That's all just nitpicking - this is a fantastic bike!

Nice work folks!

Steve,
Colorado Springs

 MG |

I respect Anon's opinion, but for me, the Vaya has exactly the fittings I'd like a touring bike to have.  It can carry all the water and gear I need it to carry, and fenders mount up easily, as they do on all steel Salsa frames.

Man, if I were choosing a rig to do a long, multi-day tour on paved, or a mix of paved and gravel roads, the Vaya would be my choice… Sure, you could spend a boat load and go with a pimpy Ti bike, but this gives you durability, affordability, solid, dependable handling, and a ride quality that compares favorably to bikes costing much more. 

It's a value proposition I think a lot of cyclists will really get into.  I'm sold, I'll tell you that much…

 anon |

Hi its anon again…..

A touring bike is the mack truck of bicycles. Its designed to carry a heavy load long distances up steep hills. A touring bike needs to be made to cope with the hardest environments, and they will be found on hills.

The double chainring on the front is exactly the wrong type for touring. The first time you hit hills on this bike with your load you will be walking it, and thats just going to ruin the trip for everyone.

What you need for the front is a triple 26-36-46, low gears for effortless grinding, you don't cycle tour to go fast, you cycle tour to get to your destination with the minimum of effort because the next day you will do the same thing again, for days or weeks.

Even at this basic level of equipment the bike fails. I could go on….

Sorry but I often meet people trying to tour who have been sold the wrong type of bike by people who have never toured.

 Tim Krueger |

Hey Anon -

I dont want this to spiral out of control, but I wanted to address your concerns. 

First, I can assure you we have been on touring bikes quite a bit.  Ive done over 13k miles of loaded touring in the past decade and Butcher has ridden from Alaska to Utah.  We love panniers here at Salsa and we know a thing about them.
As for the gearing, the Vaya is specced with a 34-50 crankset and an 11-32 cassette.  While a double is not typically interpreted as "touring", it is more than capable.  I will explain more in a future blog post, but the low gear on the Vaya is actually a slight bit lower than a standard road triple with a 11-27 road cassette.  And I know there is an argument in the touring world about brifters vs bar ends, but I will leave that for a future blog post as well.
The spec was designed to take the place of how people were using the LaCruz, and our dealers asked for lower gearing for some markets, but also asked for a double for simplicity.  However, in true Salsa style, we know the spec isn't for everyone, and that is why we offer it as a frame only, for you to build to your liking. 
Now onto the frame.  I am a big fan of panniers and lowriders, so that was one of the main criteria.  It has full rack, fender and lowrider mounts.  It has a front end geometry to be stable with loaded lowriders.  It has longer chainstays and a lower bottom bracket than the LaCruz to add to this inherent stability, as well as changing the tube specification to be stiffer laterally with the increased load. 
But the Vaya is much more than a touring bike as well.  We increased the tire clearance to accept up to 42c tires for travel on "unimproved" roads.  We created the spec to be an enjoyable riding road bike without a load as well, for those great days of following the sun down roads you have never seen.  Remember, touring is much more than panniers and camping.  Touring is about using the bike to see the world, in many different ways.

That being said, after touring through 18 states, 5 countries and 2 continents, my next adventure is to tackle the Northern Tier or Trans-Canada in the next few years.  And I will honestly say, the Vaya will be my choice for this trip!

Ride and Smile,
Tim, Salsa Product Manager

 Knarf |

I've been searching for the "ultimate" commuter for hilly seattle in the rainy winters.  I define that as a low-enough gear to go up steep 400-foot climbs; disk brakes that can stop in the rain when descending those same climbs on the way home; drop bars for more riding positions; clearance for glass and pinch-flat-resistant oversize tires (maybe 32mm) plus fenders; road-bike-like handling (at least not so truck-like in it's handling as a stretched-out mountain bike or touring bike can be).  This just may fit the bill.

How responsive does the bike feel with just a rear rack plus trunk bag mounted on it?

Steve

 LifeguardSteve |

Sounds like a great bike. What would the max tire width be on the smallest two sizes (which use 26" wheels) be?

 MplsMTB |

Very nice!

 sideshow |

Gotta agree with anon, there are a few things ya missed.  Not saying it's incapable of touring, or that you don't know what you're doing, or that i am set on one ideal type of touring bike, or any other sort of thing like that, just trying to help out.

But maybe for next year:

36 spoke wheels: stronger than 32 spoke, all else equal

bar-end shifters: brifters are more expensive to purchase and repair, and are also more prone to breaking and vulnerable to damage than regular levers and bar ends.

proper touring bars: the bars are the right height but their deep drop defeats the purpose of raising the bars in the first place.  those look like they belong on a track bike!  then again, they look like the same bars that are on the Fargo so it could be an optical illusion i guess…

kickstand: because of the location of the rear brake mounting braze-on, it's going to be pretty much impossible to mount a kickstand at the bottom bracket.  because of the rear disc brake, no chainstay-mounted kickstands either.  touring without a kickstand is pretty annoying.

crankset: 34/50 and 11/32. it's pretty good, but seriously, why no triple.  margins?  because of the limits of front derailleur reach, it would be difficult to improve the gearing for hill climbs by taking it down to a 28.  so anyone who's doing fully loaded touring with some mountains involved is going to have to replace the cranks and front derailleur (or blow up their kneecaps)

i dunno.  the only reason I can think of for all these issues is that fixing them would pretty much give you a Fargo with road tires and not-nearly-as-good components.  so maybe product differentiation was the impetus here.  i guess tell Tim to put some road tires on his Fargo, i think he'll have a much better touring experience for about the same price.

 Tim Krueger |

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 Tim Krueger |

OK guys -

Remember, the Vaya is not just a loaded touring bike it is much more. So the spec was made to reflect that.

If you are really in the want for bar-ends, triples and other things, that is why we also sell it as a frameset. We can't please everyone with one spec, so we create a spec to best fit the majority of users.


Butcher, I, and about 5 other people in the company have been riding the Vaya since last June, and we can all guarantee you that adding road tires to a Fargo does not give the same experience. The Fargo is optimized for dirt, and teh Vaya is optimized for pavement. When you ride them both, this is really clear.

Oh, and a kickstand?  I think this shows we all have different ideas of what touring means, as I would never ride a loaded bike with a kickstand.  But thats just me.

 Chip Williams |

All right, I'm taking this to the opposite side of the cassette because I see yet another Salsa model that defies pidgeon-holing and allows room for the reflection of a rider's own needs and applications.  This brown beauty called the Vaya is unique and an obvious response to the criticisms of the La Cruz, that some had.  You guys really do listen to your public.  Just when I thought I had my next bike purchase figured out, you guys throw this bomb at me ? Dang It!  There had been hints (thank you very much) but I had no idea.  I have a question about the frame that goes in the opposite direction of my touring brothers.  In the 58-60cm frame sizing, will there be room to throw a shoulder underneath the top tube, despite it's slope?  I'm wondering if this frame would service the sporadic and recreational needs for 4B (beginner class) cyclocross racing?  Stability and a lower bottom bracket isn't necessarily a bad thing for a novice on the cyclocross course.  I've always thought the higher bottom bracket geometry was from the long held traditions of the pedal clip days?  Off camber turns?  Keep your inside foot and pedal up!  Or does the handling of the longer chain stay make this a deal killer for me?  I may be pushing the boundaries too far with this brilliant new frame, but I have to ask.  I see a SRAM Rival 1x10 tranny on this with the new W.C. bar.  That's my "cats meow".  I think all the incredibly diverse reactions and cited needs for this frame spell nothing but success for you guys.  Kuddos!  Buy a Vaya frameset and make it what you want it too be.  After all, "We don't need no stinking badges!"

 gtcooper |

Mr. anon needs to mellow out.  If he doesn't like the spec, he should buy the frameset.  What a weenie.  I haven't pulled the trigger on the complete fargo because of the bar end shifters.  Your current spec is just what I want.  Thanks and keep up the good work.  Don't let the anon types get you down.  You just can't please some people.

 Keith |

Looks Good - SMILE everyone ... No bicycle is perfect for everyone.

 Endo |

I own a Spesh Tricross which has been my main bike for touring, charioty rides and a bit of dirt no and again. I love teh bike but have been looking for a steel frame to replace it's aluminium originalm but nothing has fitted the bill until this!

But what colour is it exactly? Sort of looks more maroon than brown?

 Dave Campbell |

Salsa Team - Looks like you have hit the mark again with another perfect bike!

With gravel grinders in my future…a bike like this is absolutely perfect!

Please comment on rear hub spacing.

Thanks!

 Wally Kilburg |

I've been off on a trip and didn't have access to a computer so I'm just seeing the Vaya now although I have heard about it some months back.

I have been waiting for the unveiling since I'm in the market for a bike as described. I think I'm still in the market. This may sound goofy, but the bike just doesn't speak to me - its color is hard to get past, and the Tiagra components instantly scream frameset which is okay since I agree with 50/34 up front being all wrong…I guess I'm surprised that Salsa missed the mark here. I truly count Salsa as one of the better, more aware companies. Hopefully the dealers will buy a lot of them cause I don't see people flocking to it when so many other more adaptable framesets exist. Sorry guys…I love my Fargo, but can't embrace this. Maybe it will grow on me….

 Endo |

Apart from the disc brakes to improve loaded braking, hwat differentiates this bike from the Casseroll?

 Kid Riemer |

Folks, next week we'll start a series of posts going into some of the more interesting topics that have been raised. Gearing choice, shifter choice, and the differences between the Vaya and some of our other models.

Quick answers to some of the questions that have been asked:

LifeGuard Steve:  26 x 1.75" for the two smallest frames

Endo: It is Brown with Metallic Flake. Doesn't feel like Burgundy at all to me. It is also powdercoat paint.

Dave C: 135mm rear spacing

Wally: We feel this bike will speak to plenty of consumers. You disagree. Time will tell.

Enjoy your weekend everyone.

 Wally Kilburg |

Kid: "Plenty of consumers" is misleading. Is that 10's or 100's? I'm talking in the manner of which…say the Surly LHT is revered. I've talked to a few people and a few dealers and they feel much the same as me. Sure the Vaya could be termed a hit if your sights are lower and thats okay man. It doesn't do it for me but I do hope its a hit for you guys. I'll buy more Salsa, just not this one.

 Kid Riemer |

Dear Wally,

We understand that you aren't interested in this bike.

We know others are interested in this bike.

If we make a product you are interested in you can consider purchasing it. If not, purchase whatever else you like. That's the beauty of freedom of choice.

 Wally Kilburg |

Kid, I never said otherwise. I think thats why I have Trek, Salsa, Scott, Specialized and Kona bikes. I was just curious about your term of "plenty of consumers" and wondered what it was referenced to; what mark in the industry. One of the big draws for me to Salsa is the way the company marches to its own beat. I wish you nothing but luck with it and look forward to the next Salsa offering.

 robert_in_ca |

Very cool bike.  I'm also interested to see if there would be a S&S Coupled version.

I'll be getting the frameset when I get one, for me it's gotta have lower gears for loaded touring over mountain passes, which is what I plan to do with it.

I do like brifters though, I felt you made a good choice there, bar end shifters are cheap enough to switch out to if you like those.

One easy swap people can do to get lower gearing is to use the HG-61 12-36 cassette.

 Jeff |

Well, I have to say that this looks like precisely the bike I've been looking for. Something I can use for touring and for regular old long rides. I've been considering several steel-framed touring bikes, including the LHT and the Masi Randonneur, but I think this one has the features I want.

Question: I assume the two smallest frame sizes will be something like 50cm and 52cm, which means that the 54cm will accept 700c tires?

 Steve |

A note on the couplers - while I said earlier that the S & S couplers were something I liked - I recently saw a Dahon touring frame with the Ritchey break-away system and that sure looks simple - light and from what I've heard is plenty solid….

Given the massive amounts that the airlines are charging to take a bike - it would be great to have a bike like the Vaya which can fit within their dimensions ready to go… (a-la Surly Travelers check).

If you're looking for someone to test a prototype I've got a month long tour in Belgium planned for May… the theme: think monasteries that brew beer, cheese and chocolate… not to mention climb of the Koppenberg, and a visit to Houfalize!

 justanoldhobo |

Wow!, There are some strong opinions on this bike. I have a Gunnar Crosshairs and a T2000 Cannondale that fill this niche but will be glad to do some product testing if a bike is hanging around getting cold soaked in Minnesota.
My experience with Salsa tells me this will be a well made and well thought out bike for what Salsa thinks is it's intended purpose. The commitment by Salsa is evident in the defense of this ride by the Salsa crew. We all see a bike in our minds eye before we decide if that is the one we have to have, again. We ask ourselves where can this take me faster, easier, more smoothly, and envision the experience.
The options to buy a complete or spec a bike yourself are there and as was stated earlier no one is being forced to buy anything. The biking community will decide on the Vaya. I will add that I can sell Fargo's all day because it takes me where I want to be, I have been there with the Vaya style so there are only the nuances of it's ride I have missed.
Steve,
  I have a Dahon Flo with Ritchey break-away system. It is light,fast, and never a worry about the connection as long as you maintain the bike. The packed Flo, like the road offerings, ie. Tornado, are larger than the airline standard size and it is always tricky trying to get it on a plane without paying extra. The S and S coupled like my Crosshairs fit the airline standard.

 Wally Kilburg |

I think those strong opinions are fueled by the disappointment some of us feel after seeing the Vaya. I for one put off buying anything because I wanted to wait to see the Salsa offering first. I'd RATHER buy a Salsa product for all the reasons stated by "justanoldhobo". I own many brands and have only found one that, to me, compares to a Salsa in build quality and engineering. I think even some customs at over twice the price can't touch Salsa bicycles. I am a fan.
I'm not totally closing my mind to the Vaya. A local dealer has some heading his way, frames and completes and I'll go see it, swing a leg over it and see how it feels. I'm not as excited as I could be and have resumed my search for a touring bike but then you never know. I've developed products, brought them to market and I have learned to never say never.

 Puerto Rico |

I give the amigos at Salsa credit for trying out something new and thinking out of the salsa jar a bit with the Vaya.  Not all bicycle brands are brave enough, or willing to take this risk.  I think this gene is something that Ross built into Salsa's DNA, and I'm happy to see it still being expressed to this day. I'm not aware of any complete offerings currently in the market that compare to the Vaya (i.e. a road/dirt bicycle with disc brakes, super wide tire clearance, ability to carry loads for touring, a compact road crankset paired to a mountain bicycle cassette, etc).  The Vaya is not a 'cross bicycle, not a road bicycle, not a mountain bicycle and not a touring bicycle (at least not in the traditional, or classic sense of Surly's LHT).  The Vaya borrows from all of these types of bicycles, but also becomes something new and greater than the sum of it parts.  I like that.  The Vaya may not please everyone, and may not be suitable for everyone.  But the Vaya pushes the envelope, just as others have done in the past (e.g. Joe Breeze with his Breezer Series 1, Grant Petersen with his Bridgestone RB-1, etc).  Pushing the envelope keeps the bicycle industry growing, interesting and creative.  It also often gives bicycle riders options they didn't previously have.  And that's a good thing in my book.  So I say: ?Vaya con Vaya!

 Swashbuckling Dandy |

I would not be a bit surprised to see a Vaya in the next Colorado Trail Race, or even Continental Divide Tour, or any of those crazy rides of hundreds of miles of unsupported endurance testing. This is a very cool bike, and I'm looking forward to seeing one. If you are looking for a traditional loaded touring bike, then get one of the half dozen or so models out there filling that niche. Bashing something like the Vaya because it's not what you would dream up is just childish.

Great work, Salsa! Keep the goodness flowing.

 Wally Kilburg |

Hey Dandy, I have a Fargo for any of those rides you mention so that sort of ride is covered. The Vaya to me is a lesser Fargo which is where my disappointment lies. Why bother with it? Too much overlap.

 Raiyn |

To Wally & Anon your objections have been noted - buy a frameset or don't, but quit bitching about a product you're not into and clearly don't understand.

On the flip side, other than the 10 speed cassette, (I'd rather have a 9 speed system to drop part prices) this is about as close to my ideal bike as I can find "off the rack". 

I'm a larger guy and I've wanted an "in-town go fast" bike that can handle the kind of beating that my riding style and local conditions demand.

 Raiyn |

Did I mention I love the idea of road bikes with disc brakes?  Now I have.

 Tim Krueger |

Raiyn -

The cassette is a 9 speed system, all Tiagra and LX 9 speed parts.

 Raiyn |

@Tim
My apologies, I must have gotten that from another blog or extrapolated from the La Cruz.  Tell me that it will have 36 spoke wheels and I'll be a happy camper indeed. I just feel that a fair number of folks would benefit from having a stronger wheelset given the stated intended purpose of the bike.

 Jeff |

Tim: Any more info on the frame sizes?

 JeffS |

I can't look at the picture without feeling like the bike is going to fall over backwards.

I've owned several salsas, and the mildly sloping casseroll is ok, but I will never purchase any of the new line - podio, pistola, fargo, vaya… whatever.

they're visually appalling.

 phishhead68 |

Way to go guys i will never buy this bike. 26 inch wheels… didnt that die with the 90's? i am an adult and would like to ride a 52 with 700c. thanks continue the innovation along with surly in the 26inch cat.

 Raiyn |

@ JeffS "Visually appalling"?  Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

@ Phishhead Apparently you're short - get over it. 
Rather than make too many compromises to get 700c's to work on the smallest sizes Salsa went to a smaller wheel. Your supposed status as "an adult" has no bearing on proper design, this aggression will not stand, man.

 Steve |

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 tom |

The live pics are coming out on the Vaya and it is much more attractive in them. Just sold a Poprad because I wanted some bigger shoes so if Singular doesn't resize the Peregrine I am afraid it may be "Vaya,Venga aqu

 giant hogweed |

Hmm, disc brakes.  Does that mean it could be built up with 650B wheels?

 Raiyn |

You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know every g-d plot point you missed.

You can build it with whatever the **** you want.  Whether or not it's going to work right is an entirely different matter.  650b is such a ridiculous trend and completely pointless on a bike like this.

kvnsd | February 26th, 2010

Finally got out to my local Salsa dealer to take a look at a triple Casseroll… was bummed to find out the triple was now a double. Came home went on-line and was thrilled to see the new Vaya as it has a bit more attitude than the Casseroll and while I sometimes find myself on gravel roads I’ve just never warmed up to single track so the Fargo while totally cool is just really not for me. Also want to mention that after going over the specs in some detail you all really do have a grip on how to put together a high quality complete bike that is still reasonably priced. Will be going back to the shop tomorrow to order one. Thanks for all the effort that I’m sure goes into being Salsa.

Mimi | March 17th, 2010

Salsa,
Thanks for the developing the Vaya!  Got mine a couple of weeks ago and it is EVERYTHING I wanted it to be.  Riding and Smiling every day along the packed gravel Interurban Trails and the city streets of my Pacific Northwest home.
Bicycling is a huge part of the culture in my town, and the Vaya is turning a lot of heads.
Can’t wait to deck her out with racks for a couple of loaded-down camping weekends this summer.
Thanks again, Salsa!
The Vaya is the PERFECT bike for me.
Live good. Be happy.
-Mimi

Kid Riemer | April 1st, 2010

Glad to hear you are enjoying the Vaya Mimi. Thanks for the kind words. Take care.

Dave H | May 2nd, 2010

Hi guys,

After what seemed like hundreds of hours of obsessive research and many test rides I decided a Vaya was the bike for me…  Unfortunately no complete ones coming into the UK until the summer, so I just *had* to get a frameset and spec it up.  I started by copying your kit and then made a few tweaks.  I kept the Tiagra groupset, put a Mavic Speedcity wheelset on it (not had one before, will see how it goes), kept the bars but added some georgeous brown leather Brooks bar tape to go with my B17, upgraded the brakes to BB7s and the seatpost & stem to black Thomson kit.  I treated myself to a black Chris King headset to keep things smooth up front and just fitted some SKS chromoplastics which, amazingly, even seem to make it look better.  I spent a lot of time getting a nice fit and carefully bent a stay around the front disc caliper.  This was not a problem and it looks really tidy.  To my great pleasure, the black chromoplastics actually have a gentle brown, glossy hue to them which looks sweet with the ‘upside brown’ frame.

In case you couldn’t tell, I love my new bike and am itching to do some serious miles on it.  I got it on Friday night and whizzed over to a friend’s place for a bbq yesterday, eight miles disappeared in no time and as I blasted along a half mile downhill through some woods I was so pleased I hadn’t gone for a out-and-out road bike!

Cheers guys, and good work.

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Larry | October 29th, 2010

What is the largest size tire one can put on the Vaya with full coverage fenders?  Both the 26” and 700c?

80135 (CO) | November 12th, 2010

Okay - I stand corrected…if you could only own ONE bike, the Vaya is probably THEE one (with the Fargo being a close second)...then you throw in the Ti-teaser option - for both, no less?! And folks - quit griping about the complete build-specs - that’s why they sell frame-sets. Thanks to Tim-and-the-boys for your innovation and dedication to adventure biking!

David | June 12th, 2011

I built up my Vaya last November for comuting and fire road stealth camping and it has been great.  I just finished the (fully su ported) SF to LA 545 mile AIDS/LifeCycle ride on it and, with smooth Cont gator skins it was fast.  Also moved my FSA carbon handle bars and seat post over from my Road bike (which I am going to sell now as Vaya geometry with a Brooks seat is way more comfortable for full day riding, day after day) and Am so satisfied with the experiment that it will be a permanent change.  Except for the tires, that will go back to cross type Contis when I am ready for the next fire road outing.

Mimi | June 12th, 2011

The world is full of choices…why spend time (inside) on your computer bitching incessantly about a product you have no interest in?  My advice…take the same energy/time, grab one of the bikes you DO enjoy and go for a ride instead.  It will make you feel better than spreading negative vibes all over the internet.  Promise! 
One year with my Vaya and whether its Saturday’s Farmer’s Market, the grocery store, geared up with the Ortlieb Pannier’s snugly holding the laptop and briefcase on the way to work, or loaded down for a little camping adventure “Foxy Brown” and I are Ridin’ and Smilin’ all the way. 
Easy shifting keeps it smooth, front and rear disc brakes keep it safe, 26” makes it fit (I’m short), and the brown paint keeps it discreet.
“Foxy Brown” is still turning heads on the Interurban Trail after a year of fun together.  Looking forward to many more.
Vaya = ?
Live good. Be happy.
-Mimi

Mimi | June 12th, 2011

Vaya = “heart”
that “?” was supposed to be a heart symbol.
:)

Mark G. | July 17th, 2011

Thanks everyone for the comments and info. I test rode some Vayas yesterday and I have to say, I liked the handling. I’d get a frameset and transfer the components (except wheels) from my venerable Cannondale T700. I can even use my downtube shifters, since the Vaya can take them (the Fargo can’t). My old Cannondale (1996) has tons of toe overlap, and even the smallest 700c Vaya (54) has an inch more clearance. I’m not sure how I’m going to mount my Velo-Orange front bag. I’m using V-O decaleur and cheap Nashbar front rack now, which work very well.

Stephen M | August 7th, 2011

One more “S&S Couplers” opinion.  I’d choose a Vaya over a Long Haul Trucker Deluxe if it had couplers.

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