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Wheels are now turning and we need to know what to put between the rims and the pavement? Looking at tire choice today, clincher only please for this build. The fork will accept up to 25c, maybe a 28 if the 28 is on the small side. Don't recommend anything smaller than a 23c. What tires would you recommend?

Now regarding wheels. Here are the results. We will be building wheels for this bike. There is a 1st choice and a 2nd choice. Final choice will depend on availability. Remember, we are building this bike and showcasing it the week after Eurobike.

First choice: King hubs with Mavic Open Pro rims. Why did we pick Mavic rims? Right now, it's based on tire fit.

Second choice: If we can't source the King hubs that we want, we will build our wheels with DT 240s with DT rims.

Now, let us know what tires you'd recommend?

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Jason Boucher

Growing up as a Minnesota farm boy, I developed an appreciation and love for land and open space. This appreciation has fostered two passions, cycling and photography. Both of these passions provide freedom, encourage me to explore and foster creativity. More importantly though, my journey with a bike and a camera reminds me that the world is big and I am small.

COMMENTS (19)

 cmau |

I’ve had really good luck and prefer Continental Grand-Prix 4 Seasons.  My 700x28C’s actually measure 26’s so hopefully this would work…..Is it in a carbon or steel fork?  :)

 Jason |

I second cmau on the rubber choice. I run Conti GP 4 Seasons in 25 and they’re great at 90-95 PSI for soaking up the crummy roads here in the great white north. They’re not sexy but they’re definitely dependable.

 Dan |

Conti GP 4 Seasons, also in 25.

 Racerveza |

Make it four for the 25mm GP4000 Four Seasons. (Crud, now I’ve got “Walk Like a Man” in my head.) They’re comfy and reassuringly durable.<BR><BR>With that said, I’m even more enamored of the tubeless Hutchinson Fusion 2s. Same comfy ride with added flat resistance. I don’t suppose you guys have anyone over there who wants to mount and seal a bunch of tubeless tires, though.

 Anonymous |

For a bike intended to be ridden all day, hour and hours, I’d want something relatively fast rolling, yet also reasonably puncture resistant.  I would not want pure ‘race’ tires on this bike.  Therefore, my first choice would be either a Michelin Lithion or a Conti Ultra Gatorskin.  Conti GP all season are also a good tire, and would make for a good second choice.

 Anonymous |

Anything other than a carbon/carbon fork would not do for this bike.  By the way, Alpha-Q’s Tandem carbon fork fits tires up to 28c…<BR><BR>Also, anyone else think there’s a road bike niche right between the La Cruz and the El Mariachi just screaming to be filled by Salsa?

 Zep |

An sterling 'fast bomber' tire is the 25c Michelin Krylon Carbon.  I have used this tire extensively for Winter training & commuting, here in raining Portland, OR.  This tire actually measures ~ 27mm in cross-section, so it's a BIG 25c tire.  Very tough, and surprisingly fast.  Grips like a mother on wet roads.  Great puncture protection, as well.  The 23c Krylon also runs big, maybe ~24mm.  Really a super 'all-rounder' tire.

 Head Honcho |

Make ‘em FAT! I’m currently on a set of Hutchinson Top Speed 28’s that I really like. I haven’t taken a caliper to them, but they look to measure up at a true 28c. Big’n comfy. Also have a Kevlar belt. I like peace of mind, as I hate changing flats. <BR><BR>That or Michelin’s. They measure big too. <BR><BR>I don’t like Conti’s They’re just small is all really.

 Anonymous |

“anyone else think there’s a road bike niche right between the La Cruz and the El Mariachi just screaming to be filled by Salsa?”<BR><BR>A La Cruz style bike with room for 2.0 tires would be cool.  You could build an El Mariachi with WTB drops…that might get you there.

 Anonymous |

“Anything other than a carbon/carbon fork would not do for this bike.”<BR><BR>I prefer a “light”, all steel fork.  I would think many Salsa customers would feel the same way.

 Anonymous |

Panaracer Pasela 700x25

 Anonymous |

Conti four seasons are doing me right sofar. Also dig the gatorskins. 25c.

 andrewfreye.com |

Again, not to picky on this subject. I am just going to run over some glass or nails and tear up the tire. I had been running Panaracers for years, but lately have been having issues with them. I just got a new set of Conti’s and I am enjoying them, so my vote is for anything from Conti. Will this even count as a vote, or do I need to be more specific then brand?

 Anonymous |

If a Salsa were able to design a sub-1 lb. steel road fork (including steerer), I’d be all for it for this non-racing build.  However, I have to imagine such a super-light steel fork (made out of True Temper S3?) would cost a lot.  A full-carbon fork is both lighter and cheaper.<BR><BR>WTB dirt drops on an El Mariachi.  Hmmm… Sounds tempting, but not sure about the geometry, plus bringing those bars up high enough on an El Mar seems difficult.  Perhaps if La Cruz were to evolve a bit…<BR><BR>By the way, I’m a long time Salsa customer (since the Age of Ross), and I love light steel, but I can’t wait for Salsa’s first full carbon road frame/bike.<BR><BR>But this discussion is about tires, which is why I vote for 25c Conti GP 4 Seasons.

 Anonymous |

Conti Gator Skins 700x23. Great for the price, but if price is no problem go for the GP 4000s,  It’s got the chilli thing wrapped up.

 Guitar Ted |

Well, as far as drops on an El Mar, that’s all in your stem, (which by necessity, would need to be custom) Otherwise it is no problem. <BR><BR>Tires, uh…yeah! <BR><BR>I agree, they must be as big as will fit. It’s the right thing to do on this bike. Conti tires do run narrow, so a full on 28mm Conti GP-4000 is my choice. Gatorskins are stiffer and take away frm the ride quality, says I.

 chequamagon |

Tires…  25c.  I am partial to Specialized tires right now, although I know Salsa would not use those.  Conti 4000s and Michelin Lithions both sell VERY well in the store.  I have seen the Lithion seems to last longer for folks, so in my official entry, I register with the Lithion.<BR><BR>As for the discussion mentioned above, Alpha Q also made a carbon fork for the Casseroll’s standard-reach brakes, and it is able to take a 32c Conti Top Touring.  It is called the CS-25, and is full carbon, although I think it was discontinued very fast.  I have one on my Casseroll, and though it rides nice, kinda looks sacrilege.  <BR><BR>So all that rambling brought me to the thought that in the past, Salsa used Alpha Q forks on their higher-end offerings such as the Primero and current Campeon.  It would seem fitting to me that they are doing it again, so you would be talking about the normal useable range of 23-28mm width tires.  <BR><BR>Which brings me to the fact that my 28c Pasela TourGuard tires fit into normal short-reach brakes.  If I were to ride a “racing” bike all day, that would also be nice.  <BR><BR>I know, I am sorry, too many votes in one spot.  Disqualify me now….  It is late, and I seem to ramble at this hour.

 Nicholas |

Continental Grand-Prix 4

 Anonymous |

I have had very good luck with Continental tires of all models.  This year however budget constraints hve put me on a set of Serfas seca rs tires that I really like.  They’re a bit stiffer than the Conti’s I love so much but still handle really well.  They’re plenty durable too.  Three months and no flats and I’m not too picky where I ride either.

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