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New for 2013: Introducing Colossal

Today, I'm pleased to introduce Colossal, our new all-day road riding bike.

Although the Colossal is a new bike for us, it’s been alive for years in different ways through all the Salsa road bikes that have come before it. 

About 3 years ago Tim and I started discussing the next evolution of road bikes within the Salsa brand. We each had our own experiences on the different Salsa road bikes over the years such as the La Raza, Casseroll, Pistola, Podio, and Primero.  We both had things we loved about each and things we would change. 

I loved the Podio for how lightweight it was (easily built into a 17-pound bike) but it also felt like the front and rear end were from separate bikes. Tim loved his La Raza for years but it never gave him confidence on long descents. Tim and I also have our differences; he comes from a touring background and I enjoy road racing.

From project discussions we began to shape an idea of what the next road bike from Salsa could be. Would it be quick and agile or super stable and compliant? Low, balanced, and a steady cruiser or aimed at massive power transfer, but stiff? 

We needed to explore these different ideas before defining the project.  We were curious to see if our exploration would lead to something new.

To start, I built all of our Salsa road bikes, as well as many others in the computer so I could analyze each. I used charts, graphs, and spreadsheets to compare frames such as the Podio and Pistola to get comparative numbers and ratios about why these bikes ride like they do. 

Of course, bikes will always have an emotional and subjective feel to each rider, but the more objective correlation the better. This lead to some rough frame geometry and a prototype frame sample to check, and hopefully validate, my results and let me know if I was on the right track. 

That single rough prototype frame helped us further define the geometry we wanted, so we had some lugged steel frames made in six sizes so more testers could ride them. We did some riding here and in California to test them and figure out what changes should be made.

The second prototype round for Colossal came at about the same time the first prototypes of the Warbird were coming in. Since these projects were going on simultaneously we were able to use both samplings to further influence the direction of the Colossal and its ride quality.  The second round samples, received almost a year later, helped us to refine the headtube and seat tube angles on different sizes, and get the front and rear end balanced. These second round samples were also fillet-brazed frames which looked great and have some great ride qualities to them, but didn’t quite fit the idea of this bike. 

Finally, the entire Salsa team regrouped, sat down, weighed in on their experiences, and the direction of the road bike project. We had some disagreements but we had a lot more agreements.

We decided we wanted a frame that had some get up and go but didn’t make us pay for it. We wanted a bike that would be comfortable for long periods of time, but didn’t feel sluggish. We love carving corners whether we are on a mountain bike or a road bike. We wanted a bike that was stable on long, fast descents such as out in California or around where I grew up in Tennessee. With fast descents come hard corners and excess speed and we wanted a bike that could slow us down when we got a little too hot for our own good. 

This entire process led to the final details of the bike as you see it today. I believe Colossal is a solid progressive step forward in our long line of well-regarded road bikes. Personally I'm excited at how balanced the front and rear ends of the bike feel, combined with the truly excellent ride qualities of both the steel and titanium frames.

2013 Colossal Ti: Complete Bike MSRP $3899; Frameset Only MSRP $2499

2013 Colossal Ti Complete Bike Spec

Fork                   ENVE RD DISC Carbon Tapered

Stem                  Salsa Pro Moto 1

Handlebar          Salsa PRM2 

Grips                  Salsa Gel Tape

Shifter                Shimano Ultegra

Front Brake        Avid BB7

Rear Brake        Avid BB7

Brake Lever       Shimano Ultegra

Rotors                140mm Front/140mm Rear

Seatpost            Salsa Pro Moto 1

Saddle               WTB Valcon

Front Der           Shimano 105

Rear Der           Shimano Ultegra

Front Hub          DT Swiss 350, 32H

Rear Hub           DT Swiss 350, 32H

Spokes              DT Swiss Competition

Rims                  HED Belgium No Brake Track

Tires                  Clement LLG 700c x 28mm

Cassette            Shimano 10-Speed 11-28T

Chain                 KMC X10

Crankset            FSA Energy PF30 34/50T

2013 Colossal 2: Complete Bike MSRP $2399; Frameset Only MSRP $1199

2013 Colossal 2 Complete Bike Spec

Fork                     ENVE RD DISC Carbon Tapered

Stem                    Salsa Pro Moto 2

Handlebar            Salsa PRM2 

Grips                    Salsa Gel Tape

Shifter                  SRAM Apex White

Front Brake          Avid BB7

Rear Brake           Avid BB7

Brake Lever          SRAM Apex White

Rotors                  140mm Front/140mm Rear

Seatpost              Salsa Pro Moto 2

Saddle                 WTB Valcon

Front Der             SRAM Apex White

Rear Der              SRAM Apex White

Front Hub             Salsa 2 by Formula, 32H

Rear Hub             Salsa 2 by Formula, 32H

Spokes                 DT Swiss Competition

Rims                    Sun Assault No Brake Track

Tires                    Clement LLG 700c x 28mm

Cassette              SRAM Apex 11-28T

Chain                   KMC X10

Crankset              FSA Gossamer PF30 34/50T

We hope you are as excited about the Colossal as we are. Road riding is great for many, many reasons. A lot of discoveries await you if you take that turn you've always wondered about!

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Sean 'Mailman' Mailen

I was born and raised in the hills of Tennessee. I decided in high school I wanted to design the best bikes and parts possible; I’ve been following my dream ever since. I love about every possible mode of cycling, mountain biking is the most fun, but if I’m on two wheels I’m happy.

COMMENTS (49)

Shane | August 20th, 2012

Nice! Thanks for the history of this frame design. Just curious - is the steel regular CroMo or something else? Also, does the frame purchase include fork or headset?

Tom Moore | August 20th, 2012

looking forward to seeing the bike pics on a “non” work computer that will show the pictures!. I am also interested if frame purchase will get you a fork?

Tom

alex | August 20th, 2012

Frame and fork inc in price.

Elvis | August 20th, 2012

“Frameset Only” usually means a fork is included.

“Frame only” is no fork.

So this would include the fork.

alex | August 20th, 2012

Geo isn’t aggressive, not by a long shot. HT angles are a little slack,BB is low. Spec on ti bike says FSA Energy, but pic shows Shimano. Hope it’s FSA, on looks alone. Love that bike, but Warbird more my style.

D. | August 21st, 2012

Do we really thing 140 rotors are where road is heading?  I’m not so sure, especially up front.

I really do like the concept of these bikes.

Yet seem pretty darn expensive for mass produced steel frame.  The wonderfully written story, above, of the road from Podio/Pistola to Warbird/Collosal must’ve had quite a few toll booths.

Andrew | August 21st, 2012

Those ENVE carbon forks ain’t cheap, D.  Their forks are work the price, tho, IMO.

140mm up front is fine, especially when you’ve only got a 28mm tire.

Would have liked to see fender eyelets though.

Peter Rhodes | August 21st, 2012

I’m very interested in this bike.  I turn 40 in November 2013, and I was pretty sure I was going to get a custom Indy Fab (I’m from NH, they are from NH…..) for my milestone next year.  However, now that I see this titanium version, it really has me debating about which way I want to go.
I hope my local shop will carry at least one so I can take a look.  They are going to be a new Salsa dealer for the coming year!!  (S&W Sports, Concord NH).

Jukka | August 21st, 2012

Sure like my La Raza, even though the comment of non confidence on long descents with La Raza do fit my experience, too. Otherwise a fine frame. If this thing improves on the high speed stability, sounds really good. But does it have fittings for mudguards? That is really one of the things an all day bike should have, at least here in the northern parts of Europe. Some randonneur and audax groups require the mudguards, too, and this looks like a fine choice for randonneuring.

JP | August 21st, 2012

Nice story, and nice to see Salsa get back in the road bike game.  In a way, all bikes owe something to previous bikes.  Personally, I would’ve liked to have seen the story comment a bit on disc brakes, as this is still relatively new for road bikes in general, and entirely new for Salsa asphalt-oriented road bikes in particular.  It would be interesting to see a more race-oriented alu version of the Colossal in the future.  In the meantime, the current versions look very promising.  I might have spec’d the cromoly Colossal with an 11-32 cassette.  I’ll keep dreaming about a stainless steel Salsa asphalt-oriented road bike with sidepulls…

alex | August 21st, 2012

I would like to hear Tim or Sean weigh in as to why they forwent (passed tense of forgo?) the rack/fender brazeons. The response I’ve heard from Tim on the mtbr forum is “get a Vaya” but this bike (and Warbird) is obviously exciting buyers who feel the Vaya is too sluggish or heavy and pine for something more performance oriented, only w fender capability for the reasons mentioned above.

ArkyKenny | August 21st, 2012

I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Vaya 3.  In the year I’ve had it, I’ve put over 3000 miles on it.  That is a big deal for a guy with a family and a full time job, and 2 other bikes to choose from.  It is my go-to bike because because it fits so well.  I’ve toured (heavy and light) on the road and on the rail trails, done long day rides, and even rode it all 530 miles of RAGBRAI—that included a 115 mile century day with hills, headwind, and 105 degrees.  Did I mention I love the bike?  I have some 32’s for the road instead of the stock 40’s, I put a Brooks B17 Standard Aged saddle on it (if you don’t know about those things, find out), and I put some better wheels on it—because the stock wheels wouldn’t stay true.  Otherwise, it’s stock, and it is GREAT!......but…...it’s dang HEAVY—and that is a problem when riding up these Arkansas hills.

So I was hoping you guys would come up with a lightweight road bike with many of the same handling characteristics of my Vaya. It doesn’t sound like the Colossal is that bike.  Am I right?  Should I just look for an old Pistola?  Live with/upgrade my Surly Pacer?  Am I missing something? Is there anything in the works?  Help me out guys:  I drank the Salsa Kool-Aid.

Stuart Janssen | August 22nd, 2012

Since you come from a racing background, will you be using it for that? I did the math and it has nearly identical geometry (with a few tweaks) to my current road bike, which is great for crits (and based on your assessment of being able to carve corners, so is the colossal). I’d be curious to see your setup. Maybe when I get to Cat-3…

caspar | August 23rd, 2012

If its lack of space (for a 140mm rotor)inside rear triangle that puts the brake on the seatstay , Ill take a 160mm any day just to have it on the chainstay.It looks so much cleaner when inside the rear triangle and when youre runing front and rear mech cables on downtube you might as well have the rear brake there as well and keep the top nice and clean!
Still want it though !

Rico | August 23rd, 2012

This is one sweet looking bike, esp for soggy areas like the Pac NW. 
No fender mounts?  That’s a miss—a disc-equipped road frame makes for an awesome “all-weather” bike, but ya need fenders, and eyelet make it far easier. 
Will it fit a 28c tire in both front and back? 

 

Sean | August 23rd, 2012

Thanks for the interest in the Colossal folks, let me try to answer your questions.

Shane: Colossal 2 is custom-spec’d, double-butted CroMoly tubing. We’ve got a lot of great experience with this tubing.

Tom Moore: We’ll sell the Colossal as a Complete Bike, but also as a Frameset. The Frameset includes frame, ENVE RD Disc fork, and Lip-Lock seat collar.

alex: Colossal Ti will have an FSA Energy PF30 crankset.

Peter Rhodes: Let your shop know you are interested.

Jukka: There are no fittings for mudguards. Colossal is a road bike, and is not targeting the randonneuring crowd. We’d also suggest thinking about SKS Raceblade or Planet Bike Speedez Quick-Ons as mudguard options.

JP: We always appreciate your comments. Thanks for your continued passion.

alex: Rack/fender mounts was a hot topic, and will obviously continue to be. The rack question actually was easy to decide actually. We didn’t want them. This isn’t a bike intended for racks. Fenders discussion was a bit more heated, and took longer to settle. In the end, we decided to keep the frame clean knowing that good solutions exist (clip on fenders like SKS Raceblade or Planet Bike Speedez Quick-Ons for example).

ArkyKenny: I’m not sure we can exactly answer your questions. You enjoy the Vaya and are putting it to good use. Will you like the Colossal? I’m betting yes, BUT IT IS NOT a lighter weight version of the Vaya. The geometry differs between bikes, and they have different characteristics and capabilities. Hopefully your Salsa dealer will bring in the Colossal and you’ll be able to compare them directly to one another. Again, personally I think the geometry of the Colossal is our best yet for a true road bike.

James | August 23rd, 2012

‘In the end, we decided to keep the frame clean knowing that good solutions exist (clip on fenders like SKS Raceblade or Planet Bike Speedez Quick-Ons for example)’

I know that this is my opinion but I think that not offering mudguard eyes on the colossal and the warbird bikes is missing a trick…and clip-on fenders are a poor substitute for the real thing.

alex | August 23rd, 2012

Thanks Sean. I see a subtle change at Salsa. Once upon a time Salsa would strive to please different segments of the market (disc and canti mounts on the Las Cruces, horizontal drops on a single-speed Casseroll) and would feature that in ad copy. Now a no-compromise posture rules the day. It’s a gutsy call. Salsa is one of my favorite brands: time will tell what the blow-back will be.

Will | August 23rd, 2012

I’m very excited for the Colossal.  No racks or fender mounts is not a problem for me.  I have been looking for a “go fast” road disc bike and this fits the bill perfectly.  Can you use a 160 rotor up front?  I currently run 160/140 on all my road/CX wheels and would like to keep it that way so I can swap wheels from bike to bike.  Thanks!

Andrew F | August 24th, 2012

I don’t understand the concern over lack of rack and fender mounts. Most road bikes at this level/use intention/price point don’t have them. Is it because of the disk mounts that everyone thinks they are necessary?

I’m eyeing this Colossal Ti for a 40th b-day present to myself next year. I’ve been on the same road bike for over 10 years and would love an update.

James | August 24th, 2012

I don’t think that having disc mounts has anything to do with fender mounts…I do think that they are a nice option and allow the fitting of a full length securely mounted fender…a nice option if it is wet out/you live someplace with common rainfall (pacific nw and england spring to mind)
So its more to do with rain or rather puddles and/or surface water.
Having them means options. And a securely mounted full length fender is a much better solution than any of the clip-ons for protection from spray…not just if you are out on your own but group rides too.

Robert | August 24th, 2012

Even with the high-end fork, the CrMo price is a bit eye-popping. Without naming other brands, this price point includes some really nice steel road frames in Reynolds 853 or similar tubesets. It’ll take exceptional word of mouth to justify this bike.

Terry barnes | August 26th, 2012

This is the perfect bike for our 4000 mile non profit fundraiser to fight poverty in 2013!! The disk brakes are perfect for the mountains that we will cross in California, Arizona, Mew Mexico, Colorado and New York not to mention all those hills in southern Nebraska and Iowa. The geometry and wider tires will make nice work of all those cattle crossings, rumble strips and gravel roads. Any way you’d let us take one on the trip and send back video of our fundraising, riding and how awesome the Colossal is on our collosal findraiser? Does it help if my friend is an owner of Ada Bike who is a Salsa dealer? Oops sorry got a little carried away. Love the bike.

eric | August 29th, 2012

Disc brakes: Check
All day geometry: Check
Light weight, appropriate tubing: Check
No rack mounts on a road bike: Check
Fender mounts: LOL WHY U RIDE ROAD BIEKS IN THE RAIN? Use craptacular strap-on fenders!
Oh well, guess I’ll keep looking.

scott schwartz | September 2nd, 2012

This is my ideal new road bike. Will it hold 32mm tires? Are the Titanium Colossal and Warbird’s U.S. made by Lynskey? My Vaya Ti by Lynskey is awesome as well as my Lynskey Pro CX. Light years above my girlfriend’s Taiwan made Steel Vaya on build quality and finish. Well worth the big cost increase for a lifetime frame guys. Keep it up!

David | September 3rd, 2012

OK, I can understand having one of your disc 700c bikes not having fender eyelets, but both of them?  Even that you would mention clip-on fenders as an option has me wondering.  Put fender eyelets on the war-bird, and route the cables on the downtube or top of the top tube.

stephen | September 3rd, 2012

Disc brakes are IMHO neither necessary or desirable on road bikes, though I suppose they appeal to the MTB/motocross/car mentality prevalent these days. The lack of fender eyelets really kills it though…

James | September 4th, 2012

are you guys going to take another look at the fender mounts…based on the feedback?

Al | September 5th, 2012

Ah fenders… sorry mudguards… sorry fenders.

Much more important in the UK I think, where this frame will struggle against the Kinesis designs like the Tripster which are lighter than a Vaya. Which is a shame, I love my La Raza, which does have mudguard fittings.

I think some of those hidden-style mounts would solve the problem on the Colossal. Certainly not really the thing for the Warbird.

Still, your call! Love your bikes, keep up the innovation!

scott schwartz | September 6th, 2012

Who is fabricating these for Salsa? It’s not Lynskey anymore as I’ve talked with my contact there. Are they still made in USA?  Or has it gone overseas to Taiwan???

Peter Rhodes | September 7th, 2012

Personally I don’t care that it doesn’t have fender mounts.  None of my road bikes (cannondale criterium from 1992, Giant TCR, Paramount, Aegis, and Look) have never had fender mounts.  Did not bother me one bit.  If I want to ride in crap conditions, I’ll take my Soma double cross out with the fenders on it. 
I know this isn’t a “race” bike, but come on, the selling point on this one is not fender mounts or not, it is really going to come down to disc or calipers.  If some one wants disc, this bike should be at the top of their list.  If you want calipers, you’re going to go with a more traditional frame.

Sam | September 9th, 2012

Love several of your bikes and I would buy one of these so I could take the road tires off of my cross bike, but your stocking dealer program makes that a non-option. I prefer to support the local dealer who offers me the best service after the sale, so I guess I will wait another year or two until the brands they carry catch up with road discs.

Mick | September 11th, 2012

Where are the ti frames made now?  I assume all the ti frames are made by the same builder.  el mariachi ti also?

scott schwartz | September 11th, 2012

Salsa, will you please tell us who is making these and where? Did I get the last quality, USA made Ti Salsa?? I thought I wanted this as a road bike but only if it’s made here.

Kid Riemer | September 11th, 2012

Our 2013 Titanium frames are now being made in Taiwan. There are numerous reasons for the shift including the following:

2013 Ti frames are now double-butted

Improved tube shaping

We can better support for our International distributors

Also note that the Mukluk Ti is a carryover 2012 product and is produced in the USA.

scott schwartz | September 11th, 2012

Guess that’s my last Ti Salsa. You lost my business with more cheap Taiwan frames and charge MORE than my Lynskey made Vaya?? Wow, that’s a sad state of the bike business.

Elvis | September 11th, 2012

Scott, while I’m sure that Salsa themselves have their own reasons for changing the frame supplier.

Your Vaya frame came with a Cro-Mo fork. (and that fork was made in Taiwan)

The Colossal comes with a Enve carbon fork. Which is considerably more expensive than the Vaya fork.

My own personal experience with Lynskey frames leads me to believe that I’ll trust Salsa to make a call on where is best to product their frames. But hey, to each their own.

Andrew F | September 12th, 2012

I am very interested in both the Colossal and the Warbird, but I’m a “one bike” type of guy and will have to choose between them (or something else out there). I’ve been on the same road bike for 10+ years, so I don’t jump around much. I have 2 questions:
- How does Salsa chose between Shimano and SRAM drivetrains for these 2 bikes? They have similar builds and prices otherwise. Is it related to the intent of the bikes?
- My “one bike” will be used primarily on pavement, but will see some dirt roads occassionally. It seems like the Warbird is overkill for what I need. Is the absolute max tire width on the Colossal 28s? Or can something slightly wider (say small knobbie cross 32s) fit in there?

Kid Riemer | September 12th, 2012

Andrew F - Tim is the primary person responsible for spec. I say primary because what he suggests is always discussed with others. A final bike spec is the result of a whole lot of different things. If I had to dumb it down to one phrase it would be:  We try to spec the best parts to accomplish the bike’s purpose at a given price.

Max tire width for Colossal is 28mm. I also want to be sure that we consider the Colossal to be a ‘pavement only’ bike. From how you describe your riding I’d suggest you look at either the Vaya or Warbird models. Thanks for your interest.

Kenny O. | September 18th, 2012

I’m excited to start seeing the new Colossal and Warbird bikes in stores in the Twin Cities.  Can either bike be set up with adapters to run 160mm rotor both front and rear?  The TRP Parabox would be a blast on either ride. 

Keep up the good work and pushing the industry towards some of the new standards.  I’m awaiting the day that cyclocross bikes start coming standard with that wicked new 12mm thru axle, a 142 x 12 in the rear, and hydraulic discs around.

Andrew B | October 17th, 2012

Living in the Pacific NW I would love to see fender mounts on the Colossal. Without them I’ll probably wait for someone else to bring out a disc equipped road bike that will take full fenders.

RobbPedals | November 7th, 2012

Love the Colossal 2. any idea of what the complete will way?

Gshock | January 1st, 2013

Please tell us what a colossal 2 and the ti verision will weigh in a 53cm.  I may have to sell my Colnago and pick up one of these!  Love’n the disc and enve fork combo.

Matt | January 25th, 2013

I was hoping that this frame might be my next rain bike.  However, the absence of fender mounts is a deal killer for me.  I live in Portland and clip on fenders just don’t cut it here.  I think Salsa could kill it if they put fender mounts on this bike because right now the market has this nice little void of quick bikes w/ fender mounts.

Gasman Jim | April 6th, 2013

The absence of eyelets for mudguards / fenders is a deal killer for me too. I’ve been using a Vaya as my winter bike for the past two years and am about to look for something lighter, probably in titanium in view of all the salt and filth on the UK roads. I would have happily gone with another Salsa but without the eyelets (and with the brake mounts on the seat stay instead of the chain stay) it looks like Lynskey will get my business instead. Shame!

Eli Drabman | May 26th, 2013

I finally test road a 55cm Colossal 2 yesterday, immediately after doing 30 or so miles on an early 2000s LeMond Zurich.  Long story short:  I’m head over heels for the Colossal 2.  I already have a Bianchi Campione that I use as my all weather commuter/road bike.  It has eyelets, but I don’t put fenders on it because I don’t really mind a wet ass when the rest of my body is wet too.  You guys should stop crying about the eyelets for god’s sake.  How dry do you really expect to be when you’re riding your bike in the rain?  And why would you ride a $2300 road bike in the rain anyhow?  I mean, a drizzle, sure, but you don’t need fenders for a damn drizzle. 

When I buy my Colossal in a few months (for my 35th bday) it will be for the ride quality.  I’ve been looking for something with comfortable geometry that will still let me haul ass up and down hills.  Gonna do my first century on it.  I’m stoked.  I like that it doesn’t have anything extra on it.  A few years down the road, I plan to do some randonneuring.  Then I’ll get a Vaya or Fargo.  For what I want right now, the Colossal 2 seems to be the perfect tool for what I’m going to be doing.  Love the paint job.  Love the SRAM.  Love the bars.  Hell yes. 

Jamie | June 13th, 2013

I have went back and forth on the purchase of a Colossal for the last 2 months. Initially I bought a Casseroll as it did many things pretty well and the ride quality is great! I tried a few gravel rides, paved road rides, and packed dirt singletrack with wider knobby tires. The ability to run many ways as appealing. But then it didn’t just do one thing great. A jack of all trades yet master of none.
Each time I took my Cass in, the Colossal would catch my eye and make me wonder what I was missing. It looked fast just sitting there.
So I put a deposit on a 2, ride unridden(they don’t have a size even close to mine in stock I can try). Should be here Monday and be riding by Tuesday evening. Can. Not. Wait.
It has everything stock on a bike I would want with looks to boot.

Mike D. | June 30th, 2013

I just bought the Colossal Ti in the smallest 51cm size. I’m 5’-3” and it is a perfect fit. All I had to do was drop the stem 5mm. I’ve been riding, commuting, touring and racing all types of bikes for 40+ years and this is my first Ti frame, disc brakes on a road bike (I do have hydraulic disc brakes on a full suspension MTB) and of course a PF30 BB. This is my second Salsa, my first being a 2011 Casseroll single speed, which has become my grocery getter with fenders, rack, saddlebags and lights.

The craftsmanship on the Ti frame is show bike quality and the welding is the best I’ve ever seen. The understated etched logo stuff is really nice. The bike handles great, is very responsive and the BB is ultra stiff. Yet the ride on rough surfaces like Texas chipseal is very composed. The Shimano 105 shifters, 105 front derailleur and Ultegra rear derailleur work great with low effort positive short throw shifts, better than the first generation Dura Ace 10 on my 9 y/o road racing bike. The stock Clement LLG 700c x 28 tires do a good job of smoothing out the ride while rolling easily, and are actually 30mm wide, which I really like. The stock WTB saddle is ok for the first two hours, after which the thin hard padding becomes uncomfortable, and it’s the one item I plan on changing out.

The only place where I feel Salsa missed the mark is in the braking department. I weigh only 140 lbs, but I simply cannot muster enough stopping power with the 140mm front disc when riding the hoods for hard stops, and must ride the drops anytime I need any significant stopping power. Whether it’s a matter of the small disc size or a mismatch of the 105 levers with the Avid BB7 calipers or just a combination of both, this bike really needs the 160mm disc up front, just like the Vaya. Salsa says that a 160mm disc will work with the Enve fork, and I strongly recommend using it, especially for riders weighing over 200 lbs.

Overall, I extremely pleased with this bike, and it really hits the mark for my needs. I’m impressed with the quality and value, and expect to get a lot of use from it now that I’m retired from work and don’t race anymore.

Jim Fraser | July 7th, 2013

I am in my early fifties and, at 6’1” / 235 look more like a DIiI linebacker than a cyclist.
In 2012, more for comfort reasons, I bought a Vaya 2. To state I love the bike would be an understatement. I took it on long rides, mixing road, rail trail, and nasty gravel surfaces. Great bike, butI wanted something more road oriented this year. I picked up the Colossal 2 in late spring and have been incredibly pleased with the bike.
It is exactly what I wanted, a togh road bike, comfortable, but less sedan-like than the Vaya. It handles real well, is fast enough, certainly lighter than the Vaya, and to date, I haven’t missed the fenders.

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