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New Product! Salsa Frame Bags

We are pleased to announce today the addition of frame bags to the Salsa line. These bags are designed to fit specific Salsa bikes, giving you an easy way to enhance your riding experience.

We are proud to be working with Revelate Designs to bring these to market. Mukluk bags are due to arrive any day now. Fargo/El Mariachi and Spearfish bags will arrive early in 2012.

Driveside of the new Mukluk frame bag...

Frame bags aren’t a new concept by any means. Take a trip through a historic bicycle book and you’ll see all sorts of examples of frame bags, some of them made from fabric or leather, and other times made of more rigid materials.

Quite a few years ago I bought my first frame bag from the now-defunct Wildfire Designs. That bag was simple, yet functional, and made from basic Cordura fabric, a good zipper, and some Velcro attachments. I still have and use that bag today, but design, materials, and construction have all improved today.

Non-driveside with smaller, essentials pocket and high-visibility interior...

Revelate Designs makes fantastic bags and owner Eric Parsons is a top-notch guy in our book. We appreciate not just the gear he makes, but the spirit of adventure he has demonstrated on multiple bicycling and packrafting trips. Best of all, he’s humble and exhibits a willingness to share his trip knowledge and experience that is not always the norm.

When you’ve got time, check out these links to see just a hint of some of his epic adventures:

http://epiceric.blogspot.com/2011/07/gear-geekery.html

http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,309.0.html

http://epiceric.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-finally-uploaded-video-to-vimeo-from.html">http://epiceric.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-finally-uploaded-video-to-vimeo-from.html

http://forums.mtbr.com/passion/alaskan-beach-bike-birding-packrafting-bar-hopping-fishing-extravaganza-434649.html

Our new frame bags are co-branded Salsa/Revelate Designs and are made in the USA. A host of the Salsa Crew use Revelate Designs products. We’ve used them for everything from simple overnighters to much longer trips like Joe Meiser’s and Kurt Refsnider’s Tour Divide race experiences.

Frame bag clad Fargo on tour in California...

The bottom line is that frame bags work very well. I like to consider them soft racks, but a soft rack isn’t a very appealing marketing description! They hold a surprising amount of stuff (though smaller frame sizes obviously lose out in that regard), and generally the stuff they hold was otherwise going to be carried on your back.

Whether you are using them as an oversized bag for tubes and tools, bringing along an emergency puffy insulating layer and beanie cap in winter, or carrying a small kettle, stove, and overnight gear, we believe you will find that they get the job done simply, quietly, and effectively.

Top view of the Mukluk frame bag showing the flared front end. Fargo/El Mariachi and Spearfish frame bags will not be flared...

One warning note to those of you new to frame bags: they do wear the finish of your frame, regardless of what it is made out of or what the finish type is. Such is the price of living a good life! While we’d like to think it is obvious, we need to state that said wear is not covered under warranty.

You can read the full specs of these bags on our Mukluk Frame Bag page but the basic information is this:

-Sized to fit our Mukluk frames (other frame bag models soon to come)

-Made from truly burly materials that will hold up to years and years of use

-High-quality zippers

-Flared front end for increased storage capacity

-Main compartment is accessed from the driveside zipper

-A smaller compartment is accessed from the non-driveside zipper

-High visibility interior

MSRP for these Mukluk bags is $150.

Upon arrival these Mukluk frame bags will first be available only through Salsa Authorized Dealers. After a couple weeks (assuming we still have inventory) we will open them up to all dealers that buy from Quality Bicycle Products, and they will also be available on our Shopatron website at that time.

This past August, when Jason and I were in Alaska, we stopped in for a visit at Revelate Designs world headquarters. Eric was gracious enough to let me ask him a few questions on camera and his assistant Dusty didn’t toss any firecrackers, shout any expletives, or laugh too loudly from the background. Thanks for that Dusty! If you haven’t had a chance to meet Eric, this will have to suffice for the time being.

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Mike Riemer

I love being outside. I prefer to ride on dirt. Or snow. If I was born a hundred years earlier I might have been a polar explorer. There's a great natural world out there to see, smell, taste, listen to, and experience. Life slows down out there and the distractions we've created will disappear if you let them. Give me a backpack and let me go.

COMMENTS (57)

Tom Moore | October 5th, 2011

Any plans for Vaya frame bags?

Tom

Don | October 5th, 2011

Looks swell.

Will they fit last year’s Mukluks? Or are they specific to the current year models?

Adventure Monkey | October 5th, 2011

The two companies partner together perfectly! A Salsa with Eric’s frame bags is an adventure just waiting to happen.

john | October 5th, 2011

Ditto on the year question?  Last year’s frame, or this year’s?  Looks sharp.  Would be great to just pick one of these up at the lbs instead of waiting for a custom.

Kid Riemer | October 5th, 2011

Tom: Not at this time. We feel that Revelate Designs Tangle Bags are a great match for the Vaya because they retain the use of the waterbottle cages.

Don and John: Yes, the will fit last years Mukluk’s but keep in mind that this years Mukluk 2 and 3 have a new gusset at the front end. These bags were designed with that gusset in mind. So, on a 2011 Mukluk there will be a little bit of empty space in front of the frame bag. The same is also true for the Mukluk Ti as it does not have the gusset there either. I hope that makes sense.

Bill McKnight | October 5th, 2011

Will the El Mariachi bag also fit a comparably sized Selma?

Pat Irwin | October 5th, 2011

Congrats to Salsa and Eric. We’ve been waiting for this marriage to happen and will no doubt inspire folks to load up and go a little farther…

Pat

Nick | October 6th, 2011

Did Eric stop selling the frame bags directly?  I only see the tangle bag on his site, now??  It is great if you own a salsa frame to match up perfectly… but what about non-salsa owners?

Kid Riemer | October 6th, 2011

Bill: Yes, you are correct. A bag to fit the El Mariachi would fit comparable Selma Ti.

Nick: Don’t freak out! Eric is stilling selling bags directly and you are certainly welcome to go that route if you like. I believe Eric is also planning on stocking some of these ‘Salsa-sized’ bags, but that’s for him to decide…not us. And he is of course continuing with custom bags as well. He keeps Tangle Bags in stock as they are not custom items…unless you have him build you an extra rad custom one.

Robby | October 6th, 2011

Please take back the dos niner,big mama please!

Michael Kauk | October 6th, 2011

What about those super cool seat bags? Any plans for those?

Kid Riemer | October 6th, 2011

Michael: Our distributor QBP will be carrying some other Revelate Designs products starting in 2012. My understanding is that they will be carrying the following, but don’t hold me to it.

-Tangle Bags
-Seat Bags
-Handlebar Harness
-Gas Tanks

Those products will then be available through any dealer that uses QBP.

Tyler | October 6th, 2011

QBP will have the following products in stock in the late fall:

-Viscacha Seat Bag
-Gas Tank
-Small, Medium and Large Tangle Bags

Products like Harnesses, Pockets, Slings and Mountain Feed Bags may be available from distribution in the future, but for the time being please contact Revelate Designs directly for these products.

Glenn Charles | October 7th, 2011

Congrats guys, this is a great opportunity for both Eric and all of those fun loving Mukluk riders!!

Pete Goeser | October 7th, 2011

Nice. Was wondering how to carry anything on the CCC…

Bill McKnight | October 8th, 2011

Any thoughts on the effect of the bag on you Ti frames as far as friction?

Ewangronk | October 9th, 2011

Hi,
Looks good I was going to get a bag made for my Fargo for next year so this might be the answer. The trip I have planned is in April, what do you think my chances are of getting a Full bag for a large Fargo for then?

Cheers Ewan,

Kid Riemer | October 10th, 2011

Bill: There will be friction and that means there will be abrasion. I can’t really quantify it exactly, but if you look at the Ti frames that some of the Crew ride with frame bags attached, you can see where the bags have been. Basically they are getting rubbed by ‘soft sandpaper’...but instead of sandpaper it is the fabric of the bag.

Ewangronk: Our stock El Mariachi/Fargo bags should be available well before then…hopefully February, if not sooner.

FJ TORT | October 11th, 2011

When will the Mukluk bags be available to order?

Kid Riemer | October 11th, 2011

FJ TORT: Mukluk bags are in QC check today. Assuming that all is well, they should be in stock within a day.

Kid Riemer | October 11th, 2011

FJ TORT and anyone interested: Mukluk bags (aside from XL size) are in stock and are being scooped up by Salsa Authorized Dealers.

FJ TORT | October 11th, 2011

SWEET! Thanks for the heads up!

woodius | October 13th, 2011

What is the ETA on XL bags?

FJ TORT | October 18th, 2011

Guys this bag ROCKS! Got mine a few days ago!

woodius | October 21st, 2011

When will the XL bags be in stock?

Charlie The Bikemonger | October 22nd, 2011

Just a quickie to say that the revelate products are incredibly nice. I have been using a frame bag for my touring this year (on a cross check, salsa fargo, and salsa vaya) and its been nothing but damned good, and simply perfection in salsa specific sizes.

Excellent bit of kit. Good on ya Salsa.

stephen | October 26th, 2011

Will Salsa be selling frame bags for the V1 Fargo? I’d really, really like to get one (size M!) and notice that Eric has said no more custom bags. I imagine I’m not the only one who hasn’t got one but would like to…

woodius | October 26th, 2011

I hate to be a broken record but since no one has yet answered the question:

Is there any information about when (or if) XL frame bags will be available?

Thanks.

Kid Riemer | October 26th, 2011

Woodius - Sorry not to answer right away, but there is never enough time in the day…answering from home now.

Mukluk frame bags size XL came in with a blemish.

Because the XL bags came in with this flaw, we have created a different part number for them: BG5709A

They are currently in stock under that part number. The blemish is nothing serious at all, and resulted from an extra Velcro strap being sewn on the front end, though none was supposed to be there.

If you are an easy-going type, I don’t believe you will have any trouble with this product. If tiny flaws are something you can’t see past, then you might want to wait till the next order comes in.

If it was me…I’d buy one of these, use it, and enjoy it.

Kid Riemer | October 26th, 2011

Stephen - We will not be doing bags for Fargo V1.

I’ll look into this with Joe tomorrow and we’ll work at figuring out which bag would best fit your size Medium Fargo V1.

stephen | October 26th, 2011

Thanks KR. I guess there are other people doing frame bags besides Eric but I’ve seen his work and been impressed. No need to re-invent the wheel if it can be avoided.

woodius | October 27th, 2011

Kid:

Thank you for the response, especially from home.  I appreciate your dedication to your customers and fans.

I’m all about function, so a “blemish” isn’t going to throw me.  I’ll get right on it with my LBS.

Bikeabowski | November 6th, 2011

i understand they are making a frame bag for spearfish…in earlly 2012.. i cant seem to find any proto type pics… ..?

Kid Riemer | November 7th, 2011

Bikeabowski: See this blog post for a photo for an idea of what the Spearfish bags will be like.

http://salsacycles.com/culture/Arizona_Trail_Race_The_Gear/

stephen | November 8th, 2011

Hi again. Did you guys ever figure out if any of the new frame bags fit acceptably on the mark 1 Fargo?

Bikeabowski | November 8th, 2011

Thanks for the link to the Spearfish frame bag pic. Veay nice !! I will be waiting….....until 2012

Kid Riemer | November 8th, 2011

stephen: I took a look at the frame drawings and there are fairly substantial changes in the front triangle dimensions from Fargo V1 to Fargo V2.

I’m going to be upfront and say that we didn’t design the bags to fit Fargo V1. Looking at the drawings I would probably choose a size Large Fargo/El Mariachi bag for a Medium-size Fargo V1.

The way I read the numbers I think it will better fit the front end space behind the headtube. I think it will be slightly large vertically at the seattube, but I think that slight bit of extra fabric won’t really be noticeable.

Of course…I can’t guarantee you’ll like my recommendation so don’t hold it against me if you try it and don’t like it.

stephen | November 10th, 2011

Thanks KR, I was sorta expecting the ywouldn’t fit too well. Will see if I can actually lay hands on a sample once they become available, otherwise Plan B (or C).

Edward Barton | November 16th, 2011

What are the dimensions? Particularly interested in the medium and large - wondering if one might fit my non-Salsa frame. Thanks and great product!

Edward Barton | November 16th, 2011

Oh also, weight?

Ryan | November 25th, 2011

I have an ‘09 (red) El Mariachi. Has the frame/geometry changed? Will the custom bag fit?

Also, my El Mariachi is a small and I also have a Root Beer Vaya 54cm, could I swap the bag between? Or should I just get a small Tangle bag?

Kid Riemer | December 2nd, 2011

Ryan - There have been changes through the years but I think the bag will fit well enough from ‘09 El Mariachi size Small to what will be the size Small EM/Fargo bag.

I don’t think that bag for a small EM will transfer well to a 54cm Vaya.

Thanks for riding our bikes.

Gareth | December 10th, 2011

What size Tangle would you recommend for a 2010 55cm Vaya? I did size it up (online) and think a medium would be best, but could I get away with a large? My bike is at the office at the moment and I haven’t seen it for 2 weeks to measure it properly.

Any experience of these bags on Vaya’s?

Cheers,

G

Kid Riemer | December 12th, 2011

Gareth - I don’t have personal experience with the Tangle bag but asked around and size Medium was recommended for your 55cm Vaya. Hope that helps.

Andrew | December 26th, 2011

Hey guys,
This morning I became the proud owner of my first Salsa, a Fargo! And I am dying to get this bad boy set up for bike packing so I have spent the entire day researching bike racks and panniers and so on. Needless to say I have tons of questions. I am not sure if this is even the place to ask but I don’t know where else so here goes:

What is the deal with these rackless set ups using frame bags and seat bags? What are the benefits of this system? Cons?

How can I tell if I got a Fargo 1 or 2? (that was embarrassing to ask)

Do you guys ever do anything in Texas? ATX has a pretty solid cycling culture and I was hoping Salsa could come down and hang out for a while. Maybe be give away free bikes (Casseroll, erhem) or t-shirts (size medium)? Just a thought

Thanks!

Kid Riemer | December 27th, 2011

Andrew, we are sure you’ll enjoy the Fargo. It is a great bike. Frame color and parts spec are the way to tell which model year and level you own.

RE: Frame bags or racks. Each has its merits. Frame bags are essentially free from mechanical failure, and lighter. They force you to take/use less gear though…which can be viewed positively or negatively.

Also, it doesn’t have to be one or the other. I find a frame bag, seatbag, and small front rack like the Minimalist rack to be a very nice system. I use the rack for holding a dry bag stuffed with sleeping bag and spare clothes (all the stuff I want to stay dry).

RE: Austin, Texas. There is a very good chance that we will be down in Austin sometime this coming year. Stay tuned.

Mark | December 27th, 2011

Hi, any idea when the fargo bags will be in production and available in the UK? I have a home made bag and it was for another frame so doesn’t fit as well as it could, really would like to get hold of a proper one.
Mark

Bill | January 15th, 2012

Any thoughts on when I should ask my local Salsa dealer to order frame bag for my size medium Selma.  I saw the Mukluk bags and they look great.

Rojas | January 17th, 2012

I got my Fargo 2 back in November and like Bill I think those Mukluk bags look awesome!  I’d love to know when I should hit up Colonels in FortWorth, TX for a frame bag for my size small Fargo…
Muchisimas Gracias!

Fraser | February 11th, 2012

When will the fargo bags become available???? Got lots of touring to do this year!

Tan | February 12th, 2012

I see this question has been asked already but I thought you should know there is someone else waiting for these bags. When can I get a frame bag for my large Fargo? Need one soon for a departure date fast approaching. Thanks

Sergio | February 20th, 2012

Hey I have a non-salsa frame but dims are almost identical to a Fargo.  Could you please publish measurements of the frame bag straps and locations?  I would gladly buy a Revelate/Salsa frame bag for my bike if it doesn’t conflict with cable routing.  Any timeline for Fargo bags?  What would be the issue with putting a fat bike bag on a regular MTB?  How does the fatbike fat bag conflict?

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John D | August 30th, 2012

Would love to buy one of these for my 21” Gravity 29point4 mountain bike… if it fits.  Having trouble figuring that last part out.

Charlie the bikemonger | November 14th, 2012

What size bag would fit the 2011 ti Fargo frame in XL, the frame has the kinky down tube, so I assume an XL will be too big.  How does a large fit?

Kid Riemer | November 14th, 2012

Charlie, Charlie, Charlie:  http://salsacycles.com/components/em_fargo_frame_bag

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