Seat Post Part 2

We've already asked about seat posts but we want to revisit this again because the results were not what we expected. We are not surprised that Thomson came up a lot and the anodized Thomson is a great and fun idea. We are also not surprised that the Shaft came up several times either, it's a great, reliable, functional post that matches the stem. What surprised us is that no one recommended this.

Moots Titanium or Eriksen Titanium. Surprising, at least to me. I was hoping someone would vote for this just so Salsa could finally buy one and I could try it. Why? Why didn't anyone recommend a titanium post? I haven't owned a ti post since the early part of the 90's and it was a 28.6mm so it felt plenty stiff. But on a nice 27.2 road bike, it sure sounds like it would be the comfort king on those long back country paved roads and all day road rides. Now I know this sounds a bit like campaigning and I'm sure most of us are campaigned out, but I really am curious why no one recommended ti?

Now, I know it won't match the stem, but what are the other reasons to not use a Moots or Eriksen ti post on this build? Cost? Finish? Environment? Why?

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Jason Boucher

Growing up as a Minnesota farm boy, I developed an appreciation and love for land and open space. This appreciation has fostered two passions, cycling and photography. Both of these passions provide freedom, encourage me to explore and foster creativity. More importantly though, my journey with a bike and a camera reminds me that the world is big and I am small.


 Loren |

Too much dough, not enough show. Ti isn’t all that great looking, and well, all that extra dough could be spent somewhere else on the bike where it really counts, like the wheels.

 chequamagon |

The Eriksens are quite bling in my opinion with the ability to match the rail clamp colors and decals to King headset colors.  <BR><BR>But like others have echoed, that is a lot of money to sink into an object that performs just as well at 1/4 of the price.  <BR><BR>In addition, is there a way to post up pictures to this blog?  I have the color-matched Thomson stem and seatpost I had anodized to match my El Mar.  XTR cranks too.  Lotsa ano on that bike!  It was really quite easy and inexpensive.

 Racerveza |

A seatpost has two jobs: not breaking, and not unnecessarily weighing down the bike. Other components (e.g. tires & saddles) are much more capable of smoothing out your ride. That is, unless you're riding a compact frame. Then the added length of post above the seat collar might actually permit some distinction. Still - those Ti posts are ridiculously expensive for a tube and a clamp.

 Anonymous |

Ti posts have in fact been recommended on this blog before, although not specifically by brand.  I’ve read several blog posts in the past where people have called for a Ti Shaft.<BR><BR>The fact is Ti posts are very expensive for the benefits they provide.  That’s why you saw so many more blog posts calling for Thomson, or even for carbon.<BR><BR>Many people like to match their stems and posts, whether by brand or by material.  This is easy enough to do with Thomson, or with plenty of carbon stem/post combos.  <BR><BR>By contrast, road Ti stems are not easy to come by, and when you do find them they tend to be as absurdly expensive as Ti posts. For instance, Moots makes a Ti road stem that they sell for a whopping $375!  I’d rather spend that kind of money on a Salsa carbon road bar, or on a Thomson post/stem combo.<BR><BR>While it’s certainly possible to match a current Salsa Shaft with a Salsa CroMoto stem (which is what I have on my low-key La Raza), my impression is most people wanted something more blingy, or lighter, or more exotic than that for Salsa’s virtual road bike build.<BR><BR>Personally, I think it would be super spicy if Salsa came out with carbon stem/posts or scandium stem/posts for their upcoming higher-end complete road offerings.  Salsa had an awesome scandium stem available for a short while, and it is sorely missed.<BR><BR>Jason, your customers have spoken, and their choice, for the moment at least, is Thomson.

 Palek |

I think the idea was not to drop over $200.00 on a post.  I think an Eriksen would be awesome but it’s not an everyman’s post.  <BR><BR>I think it would be great to get one with the color match caps.  If when you get the rest of the bike budgeted and you have a couple hundred left to spend I think it would be a bling place to spend it.

 Anonymous |

Please.  The Caseroll takes up to 37c tires.  The new Salsa road bike will take 25c (Maybe a ‘small’ 28c, we’re told.  Maybe.)  That has much more impact on comfort than Ti vs. Alu or Carbon post.<BR><BR>The seatpost argument is now a moot point (pun intended).  The people want a much lighter, blinger, stronger Shaft but they can’t get it.  So they’re asking for a Thomson Masterpiece instead.  Time now to move on to other virtual bike build components…

 D.P. |

Just guessing the ride quality comments are coming from non-Ti-users. While the Thomson fits with all the other clich? componentry, I doubt many have ridden the same setup and really compared ride quality. I spent a bit of time comparing both this spring with the Moots being peritoneally superior. No user error, no slipping.  After spending 20+ hrs on a Casseroll in one gravelly sitting this May, you can have my Moots post when you pry it from my cold dead A…  oh, never mind.  dp

 spartacus_p |

The reason for choosing the Thomson is the total reliability and ease of assembly and adjustment of the clamp. Those Ti posts have funky clamps which are likely to shift position if you hit a bump while perched on the end of the saddle, plus the Moots type designs are hard to set up because the saddle angle drifts by a degree or two as you tighten the clamp. If you want a bit more bling and twang, the Easton EC90 Zero has a Thomson type clamp. |

Most people posting on the blog seem to be very loyal salsa customers and mounting a moots post onto a salsa frame would be like cheating. It seems like there is a demand for a higher end/ lighter salsa seat post. I, like most other people, like to have a matching cockpit and post. However, the shaft, a great seat post, is heavy compared to a Thompson. If the option for a Salsa Scandium or Carbon post was available, I think the majority of the Thompson votes would switch over to Salsa. Until the light weight Salsa post is out I will keep on using my Shaft seat post, they get the job done and are great quality. Thanks guys.

 Smitty |

I haven’t figured out how to post pictures in blog comments either.  Prolly gotta be versed in HTML to do it.  Cheq, how about you give us a link to the pics, wherever they at?  And do tell your secrets about where and how you are getting it done…

 Anonymous |

chequamagon, can you post a link to a pic of your bike with the custom ano bits and how you went about getting it done?

 Anonymous |

Several people have called Thomson posts ‘cliche’.  I don’t understand.  Aren’t Open Pros also cliche?  And Chris King headsets?  And yet, people want ‘em.  Why?  Because they’re good.  If success in the marketplace makes Thomson cliche, good for them.  Salsa should hope to have one of their products become ‘cliche’ in this sense someday.

 Anonymous |

Ano Thomson.  Bling it on!

 Guitar Ted |

My impressions of titanium seatposts in road bikes is that there isn’t enough post sticking out above the clamp to get much benefit anyway, especially if it isn’t a sloping top tube type road bike. Thomson may be cliche’ and all, but really, in the abscence of something nicer with a Salsa moniker on it, there isn’t much a whole lot better at the price.

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